Bobbin Winder Clutch

Sometimes, if you're working with an older sewing machine, your bobbin winder won't disengage, and the needle will go up and down while you're trying to wind a bobbin.  This can be caused by 2 things.  #1)  you've got some old oil on the shaft inside that needs to be removed.  Or #2)  the ring under the bobbin winder clutch is in the wrong position.  Here's how to fix it...



Here's a picture of a bobbin winder clutch.  It's on the hand wheel of this old Kenmore.  First, loosen the small screw on the center knob.  You don't have to take it all the way out, just loosen it.  Then twist the center knob to the left (righty-tighty, lefty-loosey) until it comes off.  This is a picture of what you'll see under the knob.  Can you see the metal ring that's sitting on the center shaft?  Remove it.


You may need to take the top lid and/or the side panel off to allow the hand wheel to move in and out.  If you're not sure you can get the belt back on correctly, you don't need to take the belt off, just loosen the outer panels so you can move the hand wheel on it's shaft, like this...



Can you see how the center shaft has moved back inside, as I push the handwheel out?  Use some "solvent" (WD-40) to remove the old, gummy oil on the shaft.  Squirt it inside the hole and work the handwheel around until the gum is dissolved.  Then wipe out as much of the solvent as you can.  If you have a can of air, you can blow it out -- we use an air compressor at the shop.  Also use the solvent to wipe the old oil off of the metal ring and center knob.


Put 2 drops of oil on the shaft and put the machine back together.
 
The metal ring under the knob will have 2 or 3 raised nubs on the inside.




The raised side of the nubs should be facing outward.  Put the ring in place, with the nubs in the slots on the shaft.  (Take a closer look at the second picture above.)  Then screw the center knob back on and tighten the little screw.  You should be able to release and re-tighten the center knob.  If not, remove the center knob and re-position the metal ring.  Turn the ring clock-wise one position (or two).  Screw the center knob back on and tighten the little screw.

That should take care of it!

I neglected to mention that the bobbin winder spindle can become frozen as well.  Here's a couple pictures of a Singer bobbin winder.

 

If it's hard to turn the top spindle by hand, it's probably frozen-up by old oil.  If it's frozen, you can try two things.  First, I usually put some WD-40 in the cracks (top and bottom) and work it until it's loose.  Always blow the WD-40 out with an air compressor or canned air.  Then re-oil.  If that fails, you can disassemble the bobbin winder, clean it, and put some oil on the shaft directly.  Then put it back together.

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  2. I have a singer about 7 yrs, old and the bobbin winder makes the noise, but will not wind. I have checked all I know to check, the winder just does not kick in when pushed to the far right. What do I do? Thank you for any help you can give me.

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  3. On most bobbin winders, there’s a rubber o-ring. It could be that the rubber has dried out, and you need a new o-ring. They’re about $1. Or the shaft could be frozen. Can you turn the shaft with your fingers? If it’s hard to turn the shaft, you can squirt a little WD-40 on it and work it with your fingers until it loosens up. There’s a few other things it could be, like the bobbin winder clutch or a belt that’s slipping.

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  4. I think my white 954 sewing machine needs a new O ring because it is worn away and dried off, where could I find a new one? I've tried Google searching and can only find manuals not any parts for sale.

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    1. If you can get the old o-ring off the machine, take it to your local Ace or True Value hardware store. Hardware stores often carry a wide assortment of rubber washers and o-rings in the plumbing department for repairing faucets and valves. Try to select a standard replacement o-ring with the same inner diameter as the old, but perhaps a little "fatter" on the outside to compensate for the old one having gotten worn down. If you're lucky to find what you need in the hardware store, you'll save yourself lots of time and money compared to getting it from a sewing machine repair parts source.

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    2. A typical B-W ring from a sewing machine store is about $2. I'm guessing you'll spend multiples of that in gas trying to find one at a hardware store.

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  5. so where would the bobbin winder clutch be on a singer touch n sew 626 or does it have one? i'm trying to figure out why my bobbin won't wind too.

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  7. Annette - thanks for sharing your expertise! My old Kenmore (like the one you use in this example) wouldn't wind a bobbin, so I followed your instructions and gave it some WD-40. I must have put something back together wrong, because now when I push down on the pedal, nothing happens-- no noise, no movement, nothing. Any chance you could point me towards my mistake?

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  10. I followed the instructions to fix Bobbin Winder Clutch, now the Hand Wheel (White Machine) doesn't work. It turns, but the needle doesn't move. Can't figure out what I did or didn't do. Any ideas? Thank you

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  11. The ring is probably on backwards. When you remove the center knob, there’s a ring underneath it. You can see it in the picture. When it goes back on, the little posts in the middle should protrude outward. When you put the center knob back on, and tighten the little screw, then the knob should work to release and tighten the clutch. If it doesn’t do that, you need to go back in, and turn the ring one position, clockwise or counter clockwise. Put the knob back on, and tighten the screw. Then it should work.

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  12. Thank you for your prompt reply. The ring kept slipping out of place, I didn't realize it at the time, so I got a toothpick & held it in place while I screwed the knob in. All's well. Again, thank you.

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  13. I have a singer about 7 yrs, old and the bobbin winder works when pushed to the far right but the needle doesn't disengage. My machine is Singer Futura ce-200. The hand wheel has inner and outer wheel but they are flush (you cannot grab anything) and the center piece only has a dot on it, doesn't push in to disengage needle like my old singer machine. When starting the machine the bobbin winder runs but in a minute the machine beeps, flashes lights, and temporarily stops running since the machine senses an operation error because the needle is moving too. The needle just does not disengage when bobbin winder is pushed to the far right. What do I do? Thank you for any help you can give me.

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  14. When it involves electronics, you need to take your machine to a Singer dealer. Nobody else can get access to the circuit board parts or information. I’m sorry I can’t help you with this one. I hope you have a Singer dealer nearby.

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  15. This helped so much! After opening the end of the machine, all that was needed was a drop of oil on the bobbin threader turn thing. Now it works like a dream! Thanks!

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  16. I have an old New Home 691 sewing machine. It was working last time when I used it. But when I unplug a lamp that shared the same socket board with the sewing machine, I saw a spark in the lamp plug. The fuse was broken. So I changed the fuse, the lamp was back to work. However, my sewing machine stopped working since that incident. The hand wheel was frozen. I used the method you introduced above, it freed the hand wheel. I can see the motor is in working order and can wind a bobbin. But the shaft is still frozen. What shall I do now? Can you please give me some advice? Many thanks in advance!

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  17. In many instances, the old mechanical machines will freeze-up because of old, gummed-up oil. The best way to get it running again, is to spray all of the internal mechanical parts with WD-40. That includes the take-up area, both ends of each shaft, and wherever metal rubs on metal, in the top and bottom. Then work it in by trying to move the parts. If you can’t turn the handwheel forward, try to turn it backward. This takes some time. I had an old Kenmore that was froze-up on Saturday, and it took a lot of WD-40 and I worked the handwheel for about 5 minutes before I got it to break loose. Here’s a link to my blog post about using WD-40 on sewing machines. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/

    The important thing is that you need to be able to remove the WD-40. The best way is to use an air compressor and flannel rags. If you don’t have an air compressor, you may know someone who does, or you can use a new can of canned air.

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  18. Thanks you so much for this article. I spent almost 3 days trying to find info on how to fix my bobbin winder as it wouldn't let the machine stop sewing. My singer stylist 776 is almost 40 yrs old but still works well. Your pics & explanation were very easy to follow. I was afraid we would have to take machine in to be repaired. Our closest repair place is over 3 1/2 hour drive away. thanks again.
    Charmaine

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    1. Charmaine, I have the same machine, same age, and same problem! I took it apart today but had no idea what to do. This article looks like it will help. Did your machine look similar to these pictures? I am also wondering about the ring- if that is what is at the bottom of the stem that holds the bobbin, then I am pretty sure I need one. I couldn't tell if it was old dried out rubber or ceramic! Thanks for posting your success- it gives me encouragement!

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  19. Hi Lee Ann,
    I hope you are able to get your bobbin winder cleaned and running smoothly.

    There's a small rubber o-ring at the base of the bobbin winder post. If that is worn out or cracked, it will need to be replaced. The o-ring is usually less than $1.00, and that's something you can fix yourself.

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  20. I have a Singer 57825C. The bobbin clutch trips every 4-12 stitches making it impossible to continue. Can you talk me through how to repair? I am very good repairing my chain saw, just not so much with a sewing machine. Thank you

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  21. Hi Lori,
    I've created a post to show you how to work with your Singer bobbin winder and clutch. There are several models that use this type of bobbin winder clutch. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/2015/11/singer-bobbin-winder-clutch-model-30920.html

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  22. Thank you so much for this. We inherited an old Hobby 721 from my mother and could not get the bobbin winder to work. Having never worked on a sewing machine I had no idea where to start. Thanks to you its working fine now.

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  23. Hi, I am wanting to try this on our Singer model 6423, but there's no screw in the bobbin winder clutch, so can't figure out how to get past that part. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Have not been able to get top of case removed either, and have reached the limits of my 'safe tinkering' comfort zone.

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    1. Hi Derek,

      These new Singers aren’t made very consumer friendly, and they are pretty hard to get inside of. There doesn’t seem to be a clutch on the outside of this particular handwheel. I can’t get a good picture of the handwheel side of the machine, but it looks a lot like a Bernette, with the stitch selector knob underneath the handwheel. If it’s anything like the Bernette, you can just pop the plastic handwheel off with your hand. Then the screw under that cover is how you get to the clutch. Sometimes the grease they put on the big spring inside there, turns into a waxy substance that sticks everything together. If you can get inside there, and remove the waxy stuff with WD-40, that should take care of the problem. Be sure to pay attention to how all of the pieces go back together. Also notice the little switch at the top that engages the clutch, and make sure it’s doing what it should. Be sure to remove all the WD-40, then re-oil with a clear sewing machine oil.

      Oh, I forgot to say to clean the shaft while you're in there.

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  24. I wasn't able to pry off the handwheel with both hands and felt like going for the Visegrips was probably a poor plan... Going to book some time with a local pro this week :)

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  25. Wow, this looks like a helpful place...

    Ah... Hi. I don't use my sewing machine very much, and am pretty new with it.
    I am frustrated because although my model is supposed to decouple the bobbin winder from the rest of the machine by twisting the bobbin clutch... it's stuck. I can twist and twist like I'm trying to open a pickle jar, but even after taking that little screw out, I cannot get the clutch off the hand wheel. It's like they're fused together. I know I have succeeded in this before with this machine, but it isn't working now.

    Is there anything I can do at home, or do I need to bring it in to the shop for repair? =/ It's a pretty long trip, and I'd rather not if I don't have to.

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  26. What happens is that the old oil on the shaft turns into glue and locks the handwheel onto the shaft. I use WD-40 to dissolve the old oil. Here’s a link to using WD-40 on your sewing machine. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/2014/12/using-wd-40-on-sewing-machines.html And here’s a link for getting a stuck –on handwheel off. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-wrong-oil.html I hope this helps.

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  27. I gone through your blog. Its really good.very useful information..Thanks for sharing this.see my products also Capacitor Winding Machine

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  28. Thank you so much for your blog! I was able to release the clutch, disassemble my bobbin winder, clean, and oil it and make it go from 'won't budge' to 'I can turn it if I grip it with a tool without having to exert too much force'. Unfortunately it still won't function in the machine though. When I put it in place the rubber tire will turn (and it will smell a bit like burning rubber) but the winder itself simply won't move. Is it worth trying to lube and turn it more to see if I can get the darn thing to wind or is it just possibly as unstuck as it will get? (I used WD-40, then compressed air, then oiled it, let it sit for 20 minutes, turned it back and forth with a tool, then repeated that process twice more to get the lube all up in it). Thank you!

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  29. Sounds like you gave it a great try. Sometimes the shaft gets bent, and no amount of cleaning and oiling will make a difference. I’ll bet you could find a replacement bobbin winder that wouldn’t cost very much. Just type your machine model into ebay and see what you can find.

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  31. OMG! THANK YOU for stating that the raised side of the nubs on the metal ring should be facing outward!! I swear, I want to kiss you for that! I must have screwed and unscrewed the darn thing for a half an hour, and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working properly because it seems as though they should face inward. YAY! Thank God for the internet, and thank YOU!!

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  32. Hi, Do you have any experience with Husqvarna Mega Quilters? Its been working fine but tonight a had just started to sew when bobbin ran out after minute or two. I went to redo the bobbin but when I pressed the button it wouldn't go. Turned it off and on and still nothing. Any thoughts? thanks, Brooke

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  33. Thanks...got my 158 xxxxx bobin to wind again!
    DR

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  34. You are my new best friend! Thank you so much! Worked perfectly!

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  35. Hi, I have a Singer 4562 with a broken bobbin winder stopper. I just can't find the right one. Any suggestions? Thanks

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  36. Exactly like someone posted before... Thank You for stating that the raised side of the nubs on the metal ring should be facing outward!! We turned that know for a while in both directions and also took the top off thinking that the belts had slipped or had broken - nope, someone put that metal ring on backwards with the tabs facing in. Flipped it around and machine works fine.
    Great info here - thanks again!

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  37. I did all of the above and I still can't move the wheel by hand or with the pedal. The machine is permanently in bobbin winder mode. Any ideas?

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  38. Hello, so pleased to have found this blogger hopefully help will be at hand.
    I have been given a much used Elna SU sewing machine, stitches etc seem fine, however I cannot wind the thread on the bobbin.
    I have disengaged the needle clicked over the bobbin but the spindle is not turning although I can hear a whirring sound. I have been quoted £47 for an overhaul plus any parts. It will be a joint effort with my husband but we are pretty handy with a screwdriver and WD40!!
    I need to wiegh up cost versus age of the machine, but from what I have read of this make it seems a pretty sturdy machine.
    Also I only have one spool with this machine although I have plenty of spare spools but not from this model. The bottom of the Elna spool is plain whereas the others have the holes around the top and bottom. Will these be compatible with the Elna?
    All info appreciated.
    Thanks Fran

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    1. Hi Fran. I sent you a private email. Maybe it went to your junk mail. Here's a copy of my email...

      I sure hope you are able to save the money and fix the bobbin winder yourself. Make sure the spindle is spinning freely. Use the WD-40 if it’s frozen. And make sure the rubber ring is soft and rubbery. Those are easy to replace, if needed.

      The bobbins need to fit your machine. It doesn’t matter if there are holes or not. They need to be the right height and width. If they’re too tall, they bind up, and the machine won’t sew. If they’re too wide, they won’t fit into the bobbin case.

      Good Luck!

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  39. I was wondering if you know the size of the screw that goes in the clutch knob not sure how I lost mine but I cant find a replacement number anywhere, Thanks

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    1. I have a Kenmore Model 12121 looks just like the picture above

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    2. Hopefully someone will get back to you Bree. I posted just before you 15 July but still no joy. To be honest I ordered a new sewing machine earlier today, good luck with finding the correct screw.
      Regards
      Fran (UK)

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    3. I just got home from work and saw your question.

      If Brewer Sewing Supply doesn’t have the part, I can’t find you a part number. And they don’t list that particular screw. You could probably find it on the Sears/Kenmore website, and order it directly from them.

      Let me tell you how we get you a new screw at the shop. Bring your machine to your local sewing machine repair shop, and they’ll look in their loose screws and find something that looks right, and try a few until they find one that will fit. I know... it’s not very scientific. But that’s the way we do it.

      Good Luck in your search!

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  40. Hello thank you for your email I guess the first on must have gone in junk.I have now purchased a new all singing all dancing sewing machine just awaiting delivery. Family contributions towards an early birthday present. I have put the Elna SU on EBay a project for someone with patience. Once again thank you for taking the time for posting all your info.
    Kindest Regards
    Fran (UK)

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  41. Love your blog. Found you while I was trying to fix the bobbin winder on my garage sale 1601 Sears Kenmore. You showed me just what I needed to do. Got it fixed thanks to you.

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  42. Love your blog. Found you while I was trying to fix the bobbin winder on my garage sale 1601 Sears Kenmore. You showed me just what I needed to do. Got it fixed thanks to you.

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  43. This was so helpful. Thanks so much.

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  44. Hello, Annette. I have a problem with my vintage singer. In order to get working the mechanism of stop motion, I can't make the handwheel turn because the shaft is stuck. It's like they were melt in a single piece. Of course, I've removed the little screw and the rounded piece that holds the handwheel. I've applied warm with a hairdryer but doesn't work. Do you know any way to take it out? I don't want to make any rough movements to avoid damaging the machine. Thank you so much for your blog. Best regards.

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  45. Hi Pep,

    WD-40 always helps, in combination with a hair dryer. Here’s a post about how I got a difficult hand wheel off. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-wrong-oil.html We did end up using force and hitting it with a hammer. But we hit it from the inside, and placed the screwdriver on the metal part of the hand wheel.

    I hope you’re able to get your machine working.

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  46. I have an older singer and the bobbin only fills 1/2 way. Any suggestions?

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  47. Most bobbin winders have a “stop.” Here’s a link to a picture of a bobbin winder with its “stop.” https://itp.nyu.edu/archive/physcomp-spring2014/Tutorials/BrotherNS40 As you can see, there’s a screw in the top of the stop. If you loosen the screw, you can turn the stop so it goes further away from the bobbin winding spindle. Then re-tighten the screw.

    If your machine has a different bobbin winding system, tell me what machine you have, and I can give you an answer more specifically for your machine.

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  48. PS: There's a good picture on this page of a bobbin winder stop. It also has a screw to loosen. Adjust the stop farther away from the spindle to let it fill more. Or adjust the stop closer so it doesn't over-fill the bobbin.

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  49. Hi Annette.I have a problem with my machine, I have a Singer 4432 and after using the bobbin winder I toggled it to the left to continue sewing. The needle wont go up and down when I press the pedal. I am able to turn the hand wheel and nothing seems to be locked up inside the machine. I have tried toggling the bobbin winder shaft left and right it the hopes that something inside might not be catching but with no luck. Hope you can help me. Thanks!

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  50. Hi guys,
    does anyone know if the Pfaff 30 is meant to have a drive belt underneath like the 130 model.?

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  51. Hi Barry,

    I wish I had one in front of me to check. I did look up “Pfaff 130 parts diagram” and “Pfaff 30 parts diagram” on Google images, and they both have the same chain belt to drive the hook driver shaft. So, they both have that chain belt. But it’s not strictly underneath, it comes from the handwheel, down to the driver shaft.

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  52. Hi Annette,

    I bought a used Kenmore 1603, and was trying it out with a new needle and fresh thread. It seemed to be running fine, and I was adjusting the tension according to the manual. Seemed like I had it right but was trying to get the zigzag stitch right, and it occurred to me that I should probably use the same thread in the bobbin as the top thread, so I wound a bobbin with the same. The bobbin winder stopped before the bobbin was quite full - maybe 3/4 full. Then when I tried to sew, the needle wouldn't engage any more. Looking at the picture in the manual, I saw that the bobbin winder reset button was supposed to be "down" and it stayed up after I pushed it. I found that if I held the button down with my finger, the machine would sew. Obviously I can't hold it down whenever I sew. Would this be a problem with the bobbin clutch? It seems a little different from the other bobbin clutch problems - more with the reset button. Have you any ideas what I should do? Thanks!

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  53. Hi! I'm a relatively new sewer with some experience working in the costume department at my old college. I just bought myself a new heavy duty singer sewing machine and was working with it for 20 minutes fairly successfully until I lost the threading with my bobbin. I threaded and re threaded and re re re threaded for another 10 minutes, testing each time with the thread coming loose. Finally I took the bobbin out and re threaded AGAIN (a little frustrated by now) and tried practicing on a piece of scrap paper. Now as I said I'm fairly new to sewing so I don't know the proper terms for this so please bear with me. But when I practiced on the scrap paper I heard a snapping sound and when I stopped the machine I noticed a large clump of thread. After cutting most of the knot out I realized something was wonky: the "home" for my bobbin spool had rotated a full 90 degrees counterclockwise. I couldn't believe it at first, and even tried pushing the "home" back to its original position, to no avail. Now my needle is jammed and I'm stuck with a $100 block of plastic. If it helps for reference at all I had to jimmy the bobbin out on like a 45 degree angle due to the rotation, and all the thread is out of the machine. Any ideas what I did and how to fix it? Thanks

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  54. Hi Monika,

    The best thing you can do with that sewing machine is to take it back to where you got it and get your money back. I don’t know how they can get away with calling that machine, “heavy duty.” Anything with a drop-in plastic bobbin case will not sew heavy fabrics without the bobbin case jamming. We see it all the time at the shop.

    To correct the problem you’ve got with your machine, you remove the needle plate, put the bobbin case back in position, then screw the needle plate back on. The plastic bobbin case will probably have burrs and scratches and maybe even holes where the needle has gone through it. You can polish those off with a very fine sandpaper (about 400-500 grit). If it gets too scarred up, it has to be replaced.

    If you need an inexpensive sewing machine that will hold up a little better, try the Singer Simple. It has a metal hook and bobbin case, and you can use the Singer class 15 metal bobbins. Or go to your local thrift shop and get a vintage Kenmore. I usually can find them for $25 or less.

    Take that machine back and put your money on a different machine!

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  55. Thank you for that clear explanation. I have a Kenmore 158 13400 mechanical machine. The handwheel moves fine when I step on the pedal, but the crankshaft does not move and neither does anything else in the machine. Is this something I can fix myself, or do I have to bring it to the repair shop?
    Thank you
    Aaron

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  56. Hi Aaron,

    There’s a few things you could check.

    --First, remove the hook. Sometimes it gets jammed.
    --Second, tighten the center handwheel knob. If it doesn’t tighten, the ring inside is on wrong.
    --Third, check the belt. Take off the right side of the machine and see if the belt is too loose or is falling apart. Replace the belt or loosen the motor mount and adjust tightness.
    --Fourth, does the center belt pulley move freely? Check by trying to move it by hand. That pulley frequently freezes-up. WD-40 on the center axle will fix that.
    --Fifth has the whole machine frozen-up? Generously apply WD-40 to all shafts, joints and eccentrics. Check my blog for how to use WD-40 on your sewing machine.

    Let me know how you’re doing with your machine.

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  57. Hi, I leaped before looking... How do you put the bobbin winding assembly back together? I have a Singer 4562, which looks a lot like the picture of your machine above. I took the top of the case off, and in doing so, took apart the brake for the bobbin winding assembly. How does the inside of the machine look when it's back together correctly?

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    1. I just took a picture and posted it on the front page of my blog. Here’s the link. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/

      Let me know if you need any more help.

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  58. Thank you so much! I got my bobbin winder working again!! I sure appreciate your help.

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  59. This was very helpful. I now carry this tutorial on my iPad. Thank you so much for writing this and sharing.

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  60. Never use WD40 on sewing machines!!! Use Triflo or Singer Sewing Machine oil.

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  61. Hello,

    I just wanted to tell you that we use WD-40 every day at the shop. In 30 years, we have not seen any problems with using it.

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  62. I just put a new motor on an antique singer my grandmothers and when it goes fast so away the Bobben clutch listens and I've been on able to keep it tight is there an adjustment I can make

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  63. Hi Jeri,

    On the clutch, there’s a ring under the center knob. It needs to be turned to a different position. The bumps should protrude outward. Sometimes the “loose” position is pretty close, but it should still be able to wind the bobbin without the needle going up and down.

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  64. Hi!
    I was looking at this post hoping it would help my very-new-to-sewing-please-don't-judge self. I have a Kenmore Zig Zag 1753 (very similar to the pics in the article) that I just recently had serviced/refurbished and it has been so great. I haven't actually done that many projects yet, but already the clutch knob is completely stuck. (I am literally using the instructions manual diagram to describe the problem so I hope I'm naming the correct parts.) I went to start a new bobbin (my 5th since getting the machine) and absolutely could not get the chrome knob to release from the hand wheel. I tried taking off the top and adding the WD40. I removed the screw in the clutch knob, but it will not come off or even budge. I so hope you can help! I was gifted this machine and love it so much! Thanks for any advice!!!!

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  65. Hi Glam,

    When I have a really stuck clutch knob, I brace the front end of the machine against the counter, put on my rubber mechanic gloves and give it all I have (got them at Lowe’s for $10 -- they’re in with the garden gloves). If that doesn’t work, I get out my strap wrenches. Strap one onto the big knob and the other to the small knob and crank hard. Remember… “righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.” If that doesn’t work… I ask The Boss to help me. He’s a farmer with hands that are 4 times bigger and 4 times stronger than mine.

    Good Luck to you!

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  66. Hi,
    My needle and the bobbin below are not working together. the needle does nkt catch the thread below make it impossible to sew. Does it got to do with the winder?

    Thanks in advanced.
    Nur

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  67. Hi Nur,
    When the needle and bobbin don't work together, the timing is off. First make sure the needle is in correctly. Usually, the flat side of the needle faces towards the back, and make sure it is pushed all the way up. Be sure you are using the correct needle. Most domestic machines take a 130/705H configuration.

    If correcting the needle doesn't work, the timing is off and you'll need to take it to the shop.

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  68. I Have a WHITE sewing Machine The bobbin seems dried out How can I take the ring off

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  69. I Have a WHITE sewing Machine The bobbin seems dried out How can I take the ring off

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  70. Yes, the bobbin winder tire comes off and can usually be replaced for less than $1.

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  71. For all those having problems with winding your bobbins even though the clutch is disengaged. Take the lid off. If bobbin tire is fine with no cracks, then your problem might be that the tire is touching the wheel. Adjust your bobbin holder so that the tire is having contact with the wheel. I pushed mines back ever so slighty. Was finely able to thread my bobbins.

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  72. Thanks so much!! Turns out I had taken out the screw and forgotten to put it back! So the ring slipped out.

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  73. Hi
    I have acquired a Pfaff 1196. Its bobbin winding clutch keeps on getting loose. I tighten it with a screw and after some sewing it slips again.
    I opened it and I don't know how to put it back and what precisely is wrong with its inner working.It's all plastic from inside.
    I can't take it to a repair shop because Pfaff or any European sewing machine is a novelty in my country and most shops know only to repair hand crank machines.
    Any idea how to put it back or what could be the problem.
    I can move the shaft with my fingers but the handwheel is not moving the shaft.
    Please help.

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  74. Hi Mary June,

    I’ve done a few of those Pfaff clutches. My first thought is that the grease they put inside has turned to wax and has frozen up. You can remove it with WD-40 or dish soap. Then replace it with Tri-Flow grease or automotive grease. My second thought is, If it won’t stay tight, It may have a part that’s broken. My third thought is that the spring isn’t in correctly.

    I’ve got a Pfaff like yours here at the house. If I can find the time, I can take the clutch apart and send you some pictures.

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  75. Hi Mary June,

    I've got a new post with loads of pictures on a new post. Here's a link... http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/2017/09/pfaff-bobbin-winder-clutch.html

    I hope you're able to get your machine going again.

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  76. Thank you! With this information, I was able to fix my old Omega machine myself instead of calling in my husband to do it for me. That’s a first! I’m rather proud of myself!

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  78. Hi

    I just got started learning (at least being taught) how to use a sewing machine!

    The Singer Fashion Mate 362 that I've been lent to learn on has a frozen bobbin winder (B-W) spindle.

    I removed the B-W mechanism from the machine, and then I sprayed the mechanism (still assembled) with WD40, and then I left it for a few minutes. It remained frozen solid.

    I don't see how to disassemble the BW mechanism. So next I tried driving the spindle out of its bushing, with hammer blows that I applied to the top of the spindle. That was a big mistake, as the force of the hammer blows bent the metal arm (the arm that you move in order to engage the rubber o-ring of the winder with the drive wheel) - which I will try to unbend next.

    Anyway, I was thinking that next I might soak the assembly overnight in nail polish remover, to try dissolving the gummed up oil that I guess is gluing the spindle inside its bushing. However, I am reticent, wondering whether the nail polish remover would damage the black plastic wheel onto which the B-W rubber o-ring mounts.

    Any suggestions, please?

    By the way, are replacement B-W mechanisms available, affordable, etc?

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  79. When you apply WD-40, you have to turn the mechanism to work it in. You may need to use a pair of pliers with a soft cloth between the pliers and spindle. Try applying heat with a blow dryer. Do not put it in fingernail polish remover. That could make things worse.

    I couldn’t find a replacement bobbin winder in the Brewer catalog. If the machine has been dropped on it’s top or hit with a hammer, the shaft inside could be bent, and probably wouldn’t be repairable.

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  80. Hello Annette

    Thank you. You and your sewing machine blog are great!
    WD40 didn't penetrate enough to loosen the BW spindle. I did try pliers - to no avail. I will have to find a better penetrating fluid (preferably home made).

    The machine hasn't been dropped; and I only tapped the BW spindle with a hammer in the way you would normally insert or remove an interference-fit item. It is the lever arm that is slightly bent now (and needs straightening out now) not the spindle. Is there a way for me to upload a photo?

    As a backup, it seems I have located a replacement BW assembly online, and I'm hoping to get that.

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  81. If WD-40 doesn’t work, and it can’t be loosened with tools, it’s probably time for a replacement. And I’ll bet the replacement part won’t cost very much. Sounds like you gave it a good try!

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  82. Thank you this resolved my Issue........Roxanne

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